February 13, 2006

Rivals! Mitsubishi Evo IX MR vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STI

awesome cars!! respect for your website dood

i love subaru. but i choose evolution, yeah ;]

and i choose subaru ;]

i also choose subaru impreza. don’t know why (c) top gear

hehe

beautiful photo on the top of the article

is there any large one to use as a desktop?

nice!

evo!

yeah, evo!

sti!

evo all the way

If your going to buy a car like this, then the evo wins hands down in terms of performance handling and driving experience.

everyone who knows anything will go for the evo, not least because they’re rarer, but because they outperform the scooby.

Also the underrated looks give it a sense of mystery

evo!!!!!!

mitsi all the way

evo 4tw!

evo for life time

hehe. as i can see almost everyone love evos

as i already said - evo all the way!!!

subby all the way!

scooby aLL DAY it would leave eny evo standing like a cabbage haha

evo..always..!!

only …evo..

evo - light agile - like bird
wrx - heavy dog - like lead

lmao

evo - for boys
scooby - for men

that’s it!

scooby - for men w/ burberry & bling

driven both. I own an evo ix mr. enough said!

let the scooby power be with you

yoda

I traded in my STi for the Evo MR, I test drove it just to see what all the hype was about, and well…it went home with me instead of the Suby. By the way I’m a 3 time Suby owner (2000 2.5RS, 2003 WRX for the wife, and a 2004 STi) and a member of i-club.com. My friends at the meets have pretty much given up on me, but I’m sure it’s simply out of pure envy. In short, try it, you’ll love it!

evo will dust any STI

there is only car better then subaru. it’s skyline gtr 34.

evo nuts

r34 is like a toy compare to evo in the track… and sti will be left behind..

an evo would smoke a sti hands down!!

i dont agree on the moter trends desion on the sti beating the gto
with the gto pumping more than 140 hp than the sti. and getting a 0-60 time in 4.6 sec and a top speed of 175.

dude where did that Gto come from? and besides those Gtos arent all that juss over priced for that get the EVO Mr:) but i do have to admit the STI with a short shifter the performace exhaust and a cool air intake raising the red line to 8 enstead of 7rmp can smoke the Evo IX MR no problem

I’m thinking EVO but I need training to drive it properly, I’m a newb.

Both the Evo and STi are factory riced out pieces of shit.

Yehaww sluts. Stupid ass import ricers….

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR, What a piece of shit the Evo was modded that’s cheating the Subaru Impreza WRX STI would smoke a boxy car like the Mitsubishi

I don’t know, both are extremely impressive cars, I have tons of literature on both, because in a few months, i’ll be trading in my 2006 Subaru Impreza 2.5i for one of the two, but I haven’t decided yet. Everyone I ask is 50/50, I need some hardcore proof, and reasons I should buy one or the other, considering the first thing i’m gonna do is throw like, 5 grand into performance parts. So, any suggestions? STI OR EVO?

BE specific, use valid reasons one is better than the other too…

WRX bro!! And get an earlier moddle. They arnt so toned down for a smooth ride. And from another sourse the 2006 STI was quicker then the evo!

WRX all the way! the 10 quickest quater mile times with 4WD cars have WRX dominating!!!!!! firts place: wrx with 8.5s, lancer,wrx,wrx,wrx, hyunday,evo,wrx,wrx,lancer.

Ok i hate to say this but this is to “Impreza2006subie”i just went to test drive both Evo IX not the MR but juss the regular 5 speed and the Subaru’s WRX STI on the same day which is very hard to convince the dealerships to do.but Im a Subie fan i think they look better and they are just a better company but i have to give it to the Evo this time the handling was better and throtle was more responsive and its just super fun to drive but the STI feels heavy comapred to the EVO and is a bit i mean a little bit slower but the interior and comfort is SO MUCH BETTER so it depends on what your looking for a smooth everyday car=STI or a Freaky fast fun car=Evo hope that helps you man.. peace

FUCK ALL YOU EVO IX MR HaTERS!!!!!
I HOPE AN EVO COMES UP TO YOU AND SMOKES YOUR ASS.
I own an EVO IX MR and smoke quite of American cars. IM Mexican but i got to represent my fellow japanesse homies
FUCK WHITE BOYS WITH DIESEL TRUCKS

2005 STi rocks.
Just got back from El Mirage (dry lake) with my friend who drivces Evo 8 (5speed).
We were making donuts and swiched cars, and raced, drifted….
Evo was harder to handle and laks quick power, but STi was eaiser to handle and a Evo daily driver admit too.

Evo is quicker and more responsive by almost tinby bit. Only a professional driver will make difference, but STi was much more easier to handle and durable.

Evo clutch and tirers worn out after 1500miles, and clutch and tires are still good after 38000 miles. I am not a quite driver. I go 150mphs, at least once a day, i push the car to the limit.

Flat 4 engine wich is same as porches is much better.

so Evo Vs STi? of course STi
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I hate to say this I was an STI fan too but I juss test drove the the 2006 WRX sti very good car and i thought with 300 hp it was gonna b a monster but then i drove the Evo IX and OMG?! less hp less torque BUT MY GOD the speed and the responsiveness of tat animal is mind blowing handles and turns almost as well and a lightwieght RX8 or lotus and is a bit of a weakling till 3000 rpm and i was like whats this but wen tat turbo lag ended and it kiks in boy pure ecstacy ok the STI is for everyday drivers who need to get to work and back and still have fun but the Evo is a bumpy hard turning turbo kicking beast so i bought one (5speed) becuase i was tired of sharing the Rx8 with my old man so i have a everyday car and a weekend car:) oo those of you with RX8’s good news!!! the PTP turbo is coming out for it which blows the old GREEDY turbo’s ass with a 390 hp and 290 torque which is 90 hp and 120 more Torque (August of 06)

MAN….. EVO 9 vs. WRX STI….who will win? EVO 9 WILL OWN any subaru….. Go EVO!!!!!!!!

bull sh*$ j-c-

wot u mean bull shit go watch top gear and then talk…. everyone knows the evo 9 will own the sti so why bother stickin up for it all uz gona get is jst OWNAGE

evo ix biatch, eazier 2 modify, drive, and kick soobies ass, driven both and evo ix was hands down winner

shelby 4 evr

i just bought an evo IX MR a few weeks ago. One of my buddies has an 05 STI and always bragged about how his subie was better. Once i let him take it for a test drive he decided then and there that he was trading in his STI for an evo IX. He now owns a blue evo IX and never looks back at his STI

I once owned 5 evo IXXL MR-T… and my grandma had recently bought a suby. She was pestering abt how her suby was better than all my 5 evo IXXL MR-T combined. So, i took her car for a test drive and i decided to get a suby there and then. So, i traded in all my 5 evo IXXL MR-T for a bicycle, a dog and some chips.

I now take rides from grandma.

EVO 4EVER BOYS

adi….forta evoo!!! si nu uita asa va fii todeauna ….asta ti-o dedic tie fratelo

I once owned a Subaru STi and then a Mitsubishi Evo MR. O yea that was a nightmare i was having SHELBY 4EVER

Mannnnnn Ok OK STI VS EVO is like Comparing Salma Hayek and Shakria.. Your good edither way. Salma is has the nice body but Shakira would Rock your World.. Ahhh to hell with it, EVO ALL THE WAY BABEEEE WOOO HOOOO !!! I watch like 5 or 6 episodes of those Top Gear shows about these to beasts and I went Evo I like speed. B U T i love the sound of the WRX STi…If you ask me probably would sound like Salma In bed .

A couple of days ago a buddy of mine who owns an `03 Evo (not MR) but very much fixed up…. said that the new MR is gonna be 300HP. Is that what you guys heard as well? I have looked all over the net and nothing. The new Evo MR is 286HP and there is nothing about 300HP.

If he is wrong, sucks, but I think it would be awsome.
I just really don’t like Mitsu’s but really don’t know much about the realibility of a Subi. Although it might technically be more balanced since it pushed less PSI per liter.

XENO4EVER
haha, very original comparison! nice!

Vitaliy

i heard nothing about 300hp stock evo mr. maybe your friend heard about any tuned mr?

No, he told me that it was the new stock EVO MR that will be 300HP.
And another guy who is a mechanic and works for some big company in a pit stop I believe, contests to that as well.

I will try to find out, and will get back to you guys.

There’s a difference between posted HP and actual HP. The Evo XI’s definitely make more power than than the 03’s on the butt dyno. Kind of like the 06 WRX Impreza’s (2.5L). They are listed at 230hp but when run on the dyno, seem to make about 250hp stock. I’m guessing Subaru did this because they didn’t want the WRX to list close to their 10k more expensive flagship car. I LOVE the sound and feel of the boxer engine, as well as the interior and refinement. The Subies are hand’s down better there (other than the crappy quality paint). However, the 4G63 EVOs are just plain faster, make more power, and much cheaper to mod than the Subaru. The Mitsu looks rather like a KIA inside but the closer ratio steering, the handling ,etc. and driving experience is just amazing…nothing else like it on the road. The STI stock makes its power with less fuss and its more refined… but slower steering, weaker seats, and more twitchy handling. I honestly don’t think you could go wrong with either one. I’d love to have an MR for the track, and one of those 07 limited STI’s for daily driving.

For the guy that was talking about japanese rice and all that… why don’t you actually drive either car. Vette’s are pretty nice, but other than straight-line power, they really have nothing on an EVO or STI. The handling and control of the 2 cars is something only cars closer to 100k and more can match.

sti all the way!!

STi all the way

Last i herd a AE86 can beat a EVO on the downhill =P

lol HAHAHA sure mate fink uve been watchin 2 much initial D lol….

Whoopie…so the Evo is a tiny bit faster….it’s pushing 20 PSI through the turbo factory, the STI only has 15.5 PSI factory. Wanna see an Evo get left in the dust, just throw a $15 manual boost controller on the STI and crank it to the same 20 PSI….level ground, easy to add boost, hard to add cubes (and yes, the VF39 can handle 20 lbs of boost). Face it Evo guys, run the same boost on both cars, and you get your bumper handed to ya, how fast would an evo be if you only let it have 15.5 PSI…it wouldn’t be fast. In fact, I bet a stock WRX (non STI) would beat an Evo running 15.5 PSI….and WRX’s only run 13.5 PSI! By the way, if ya wanna walk away from an accident, the scooby will give its life for yours, best crash rating possible, side air bags too…does the Evo have that….or is it a death trap like an SRT-4? As far as reliability….Subaru just passed up Toyota for overall reliability. All that and it’s a few grand cheaper…with a nicer interior. Oh yeah, and they don’t make an Evo wagon at all (I drive a stage-4 WRX wagon, my wagon will beat either and still cost less than either including all mods).

actually, Mitsu does make a Evolution IX Wagon. do your homework

My mistake, I should have said an Evo wagon available IN THE STATES. Not like you can get one of the limited 2,500 here, everything I’ve read shows they are staying in Japan. So I stand by my statement, since I can’t go to a dealership and buy one. And still, for the 31k+ they would want for it you can buy the WRX wagon, throw a VF34, turbo back exhaust, a protune, fuel pump and injectors, a MBC, and have enough money left over to take a nice vacation somewhere….oh yeah, and you’ll be faster than the Evo. Not to mention the CHEAPER insurance you pay as long as you own the car. The only wagons that come close in the states, are the Magnum SRT-8 and Mercedes AMG…..but both cost way and waaayy more.

A question for Zaeroh or anyone else who can explain in detail what he said about the power production of the Evo and STI. I understand that the evo is pushing more PSI but how does it produce more power if the ratings are different?

And I know that there may be some differences in power as far as to the wheels or crank. But I don’t completely understand the concept of what Zaeroh was talking about.

Thanks,
Vitaliy

ps., this is just me, but I would rather not drive a wagon.

No car makers use the exact same rating systems, all ratings are for the flywheel, however in some cases (we saw a lot of this in the musclecars of the 70’s, and still some today), the company will under rate the output for a lower insurance class (keeping it as affordable to the prospective buyer as possible…also why many cars have back seats that are unusable to humans), they could even have motives as simple as wanting to make sure thier similar rated vehicle will always beat out a competitor. For exapmple, it is widely known that Ford over rated thier motors a few years ago, and Chevy under rated thiers, thus when you had a 305hp Cobra racing a 305hp Z-28 SS, the Camaro won every time. Keep in mind torque and where the power band starts and stops has a lot to do with it as well. But, I can prove that Chevy did indeed under rate the LS1. I had a 1999 30th anniversary WS6 Trans Am, I threw it on a Dyno at UTI, and bone stock it put out 305hp at the wheels (and I’m in IL, so it’s not like I’m at a low altitude along the coast getting more power than anywhere else in the country), figuring 15% drivetrain loss for a rear wheel drive car with a manual trans, thats over 350hp at the flywheel…..rated at 320hp. You have to take the rated horsepower with a grain of salt, I’m guessing Mitsu does under rate thier motors a bit, since the Subies are pretty much rated right (average WRX non STI is around 168hp at the wheels, and an average of 27% loss through the drivetrain to get about 230hp) . I would gues the Mitsu makes an actual 300hp+. It’s even possbile that the Mitsu drivetrain is simply more efficient that the Subaru, don’t forget gearing has an effect on acceleration as well. As far as weight, yes the Evo is a little lighter than the STI, but according to above, it’s only 50lbs curb weight lighter, and the average rule of thumb is every 100lbs is a tenth of a second in the quarter mile, so weight isn’t that big of an issue between these two. Basicly, the company isn’t restricted to rating the output of the engine at it’s actual output, simply where they want to. Another example is the Viper, when first introduced, it was 400hp, later they changed the exaust from side pipes to exit out the rear of the car, that was the only change, but when they did that, the rating was 415hp….if you looked at the rating though, the higher rating was 500 rpm higher, so maybe Mitsu rates the Evo at 286hp at 6,500 rpm, but it might make 302hp at 6,800 rpm….I dunno, I havent ever seen an Evo on the dyno.

Go to www.youtube.com they have plenty of evos on the Dyno, they keep us updated on the Evo with 988+ Hp from AMS pretty crazy. Im just getting use to my evo with just 270 or so hp I got the Original 03 Evo VIII comes with everything the MR has except the extra 15 or so extra Hp and a Boost gauge witch is ugly anyway. I love have power everything even my power HID headlights I just sit there and play with those for a little, then I take off. Im getting the money together to put in the Hard IC pipes and Bigger IC and cams get it back up to near 400hp I read that in the new Import Tuner I was all rubben my Chin Like Hmmmmmmm ;~j

Evos are better straight out of the box. only by a little bit. the Evo’s weight makes up for the lost horse power against the STi, and the STi’s horse power makes up for it’s weight. the Evolution starts out really fast and then the STi builds up speed quickly to catch up. by not even a second or 2 the evo would beat it in a drag. But on the other hand STi’s are alot cheaper. putting 5 grand into it will make it an evo killer, but do the same thing evo will stand better ^_^ but theres only so much you can do with 2.0 liters. Making the STi more upgradable. Also there are many things you can do with weight. take out backseats, carbon fiber, and it will be powerful then the evo. the evo on the other hand, since the evos are under tuned then the UK ones, tune it the right way and bam 100 extra horses close match but evo comes in with the race. it’s feel and best steering on the planet will make it win.

Good point (however 50lbs difference is nothing). Although I’m sure many Porsche owners would argue about the best steering on the planet. When I had my Jeep, there was a saying “Real Jeeps aren’t bought, they’re built”, and it’s the same with cars, I say “fast cars aren’t bought, they’re built”. With that said, depending on your budget, go with the non-STI WRX (I got mine off the lot new for $22,500), and if ya gotta spend that extra 13k….put it into the standard WRX, and you’ve got a 600+hp beast….maybe more on race fuel…all for the same price as a new Evo. Keep in mind you can pick up used WRX’s as low as 12k…I know of a company that can make it a 700hp monster for about 15k….wich makes it still cheaper than a new STI. As far as handling, the aftermarket knows the understeer problems the Subies have, and for under $500, you can make a standard WRX (not including tires and rims) handle better than an stock Evo. So my vote goes to niether the STI or Evo….it’s the regular WRX for bang for buck, and you still have one of the safest cars on the road with cheaper insurance. Oh, and there’s nothing sweeter than blowing the doors off a much more expensive car (take your pick, Porsche, Corvette, BMW, etc.) with a 4 cylinder wagon (even better with a roof rack and tow reciever, can ya say sleeper?)! As far as the Evo’s being undertuned compared to overseas….not by much, they had to stay within spec in Japan, just like the Japan STI’s ran 2.0 liters to stay in spec for the rally races, the 2.5 was only for the USA. They knew Americans wouldn’t take to major turbo lag very well on a 30k+ car, which is why even the standard WRX is now 2.5 liters. I’d say give it till 2008 for the new body style, and you might just see a 3.0 boxer 6 turbo on a special edition STI cranking out 400hp from the factory. =D

I got my 03EVO VIII for 25k and just reading about how inexpensive it is to hook up and EVO is just Stagering to spend $1700 for IC parts and Cams and get close to 400 Hp thats Sick because I found the same XS parts on ebay for a total of around $800-$900 thats is even more sick, with just $2500 worth of serious Parts for a evo you can BLow the Doors of those Super cars WrX DuDE that was pretty funny by the was with the ROOF Rack LoL.. Just got to keep an Eye out for those mercedes with 600+ or so Hp out the box. Hey I’m trying to decide on a Blow Off Valve (BOV) HKS or Type S or R I dont know I like the High pitch release sound which should I go For?????

jessze people a car is car ok!?

Hey anonymous, if a car is a car then why did you search for this topic?

Obviously, you weren’t looking for Teletubbies??

Today is July 30th but the post says July 31st?

Evo IX MR is better !

Pretty Quiet, Well we just had an EVo STi meet last Thursday in vegas at the “In and Out” on W. Sahara it was pretty cool learned alot there were lots of STIs got there kinda late and saw some EVo’s leaving but there were sill alot, there were some nice EVos though. They had some carbon hoods I havnt even see yet. But it was cool

STi is a great car for my daily driving and the sound is even more better after I installed the Borla exhaust system,,and my EVO IX MR is a perfect car for a weekend run up and down the mountain where I live, it’s fast as hell and I’ve smoked lots of corvettes, or any other V6 and V8 cars on that road with the Evo, anybody can go fast on a straight line but what separates me from those losers is the way I take corners better then them and leave them behind eating my dust, I do have both cars and I love both,,if I can’t choose which one is better, why not have both,,that is why I bought both of them. My next car would be a Nissan 350Z or Infiniti G35, they both a rear-wheel-drive so I can learn how to drift and drive even more faster on the mountain road, oh I’m a executive manager and I manage 27 country clubs,,so thats how I can afford to have all these toys.

i used to have lightly moded wrx it was faster then stock sti or evo,
i test drove both sti and evo 8 mr it was the evo that really moved, the tranny feels better it’s a lot more responsive, it’s a lot louder then sti on the highway and the suspension is more stiff but that’s exactly what i am looking for. I’ll take the evo hands down, I still can’t believe i traded my wrx for 2001 bmw m5, it’s a good car but i am looking for an evo now used mr 8. whoever said that the vette can’t keep up with either those cars is ignorant Nurburging times C5 ZO6
which msrp is around 33000 right now had a lap time of 7:56 EVO 8 MR 8:14 so don’t underestimate the vettes because they are one of the best rwd handling cars for the buck$$$$$ but I still think evo and sti is more versitile of them all, the beauty of awd. powersliding in the dirt and snow plus i am huge WRC fan as well. So i would have to go with the EVO.

my two cents

evo or sti….hard hard choice…….
Both are amazing machine and I have respect for both.
However, even though the STi is slightly slower then the evo off the line because of the weight, I just like the STi better.
Of course, if someone offered me a free evo, it’s not like I would say no, mainly because I’m also a college student whose deperatly trying to save up enough money for my own STi.

By the way, I’m not 100% sure if it’s just the WRX or if it applies to the STi too, but I heard that if the gearbox is pushed more then 10 to 20 bhp over what it was designed to handle, that the gears crack very easily. I would really appriciate any help.

STI VS EVOIX…. EVO IX HANDS DOWN. Ive been in and driven both…. Evo Gearbox feels alot more defined and car feels alot more responsive… Preformance > than STI. Alot of people who own WRX STI’s will say STI is better just because they have the car, and it come realluy close to the Evo. But for Performance, EVO will Bone STI’s Ass. and STI Understeers to much…
POWER TO THE LANCER EVOLUTION

me and my brother own a 05 sti and an 06 ix mr and trust me they are neck and neck with each other no matter what or where we are racing down the road except the evo can be pushed just a little bit more than the sti..

Great comments!
Can we get some personal driving experiences.

After I saw the `06 STI in the dealership, I knew this was the car I was saving for. I have never driven an Sti but have driver the Evo.

Is the Evo, very uncomfortable as a daily driver?

Thanks,
Vitaliy

the cars are almost identical but i prefer the mr over the sti, the evo has better ride quality and seems more responsive than the sti. the evo is a great daily driver more confortable than driving the sti every day

sti vs evo need help. gona get one soon, i am heading towards the evo. in my oppinion the evo has a better bod, and a better turbo. tell me if i am going the right way

yea i think you are going in the right direction, especially if you plan on modifying because you can crank over 1000hp out of the sucker

Coming from a GC8 99 Aus Spec WRX/STI backgound.
These old school WRX’s really are a go Kart once you throw some performance bits on them so are pretty hardcore compared to the New Shape Imprezas you have over in the States.

In Australia, especially at Club sprint levels we are finding that the hardcore group of STI fans are deserting the car in droves.

Why:
MY06 STI’s (2.5 ltr Oz) went to fragile cast pistons as opposed to the forged pistons we had previously. Wind up the boost on the new engines and the cylinder walls either crack, or the pistons go bye bye if the tune is not spot on.
Quick Ratio Steering Rack: Standard on the EVO.
Twin Scroll Turbo on the EVO more than makes up for the lack of engine capacity compared to the STI.
FMIC with short pipe runs: Standard on the EVO.
One generation ahead in Differential Technology in the EVO.
STI is a heavier bastard.
STi’s Dicknose… Need I say more….

I still love the Boxser burble from the STI though.

hey are neon lights neon lights illegal in Texas i want to get em on my car.

are you trying to be 2 fast 2 furious? Neon lights are gay. get a civic don’t get an evo or an sti……..u will be an embarrassment to us evo/sti owners.

sorry to ruin your analogy but hulk actually could beat up juggernaut pretty easily since hulk was the one to beat onslaught

you talk crap the subaru is best

for everyday driving ? should i buy STI or evo . . . i drive 100 miles per day . i need fast , tuff car . . . . . . . . .

if your driving to work on highway for a long distance go with the sti for the cruise control and no matter what you will not be disappointed with either car because they are both monsters that are tuff and fast

I am planning to drive 100K miles in next 3 years . Which car would cost me less money for repair ? ( Or getting it fixed ) I mean parts and lobor ? I really don’t wanna spend a lot of money everymonth , cuz I am putting too many miles . Plz help me compare sti or evo ?

they are both fairly expensive to maintain..so far in the 2 years ive had minimal repairs such as bumper repainted from an incident but that was it..but like i said they are expensive to maintain so if your looking for a cheap maintanace go with a civic

That first picture with the cars jumping is amazing, that has to be very unsafe during landing

which would be good long term strong car ? ( evo mr OR wrx sti ? )
i am planning to keep the car for 4 years and i will put 150,000 miles in 4 years ( i drive about 100-120 miles per day )

would you recommend me EVO ? ( daily driving )
or should i go for STI ? ( daily driving )

help me compare the maint. cost , parts and labor ?
( i heard evo cost a lot to maint. vs saburu ? )

what i like about EVO , comes with a good warranty ( but sti dont )

i am still not sure - if i decide to go for the evo ( should i get 2006 ix or mr ) orrrr wait untill 2007 , and buy me a new 2007 X ?

and other question - what do you guys think about 2007 wrx sti ? ( is it better then 2006 sti ? ) cuz they dropped the power ( HP ) . . .

www.streetfire.net
crazy video’s
( evo , sti , g35 , gto , srt-4 , scion tc )

do you guys know some other websites ? ( where i could see more racing video’s ) . . . . . streetfire.net , got a lot of good stuff - but i am done watching all the stuff they got . i did search on google but not much out there ( edmunds got few ) but they arent good

let me know if you guys know any other websites

thanks

ray, on this website is a great video collection also

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-02-13/rivals-mitsubishi-evo-ix-mr-vs-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti/

they are almost the exact same…evo will not be offered for 2007..and for the 2007 sti, they didnt drop any hp, the way they rated it previously was inaccurate but not by much i think 7hp tho..if you want to get a new car id just get the 07 sti since its so late to get an 06 but 08 is too far away to get the evo x

right now i am comparing 2007 Sti Vs 2007 evo x . . . . . which car would be better over-all ?

everyday driving . . . . . . .

as far as my understanding ( evo’s are faster , quicker ) but overall Sti’s is Better ( strong car , tuff )

i was also comparing Gto , G35 , 3.2 TL , benz 350

but the reason i wanna get evo or sti ( cuz they are really fast + all wheel driveeeeee )

please help me compare evo vs sti ( model 2007 )
i am planning to drive 50,000 miles per year ( and i am planning to keep the car for atleast 3 years ) . . . . .

there will not be an evo made in 2007…either you get a 2006 evo ix or wait till 2008 and get the evo x…or you can get the 2007 sti…they are almost the same cars, i have both of them…they both will last a long time if they are not abused so there is not a “better” car in this situation

Do anyone know what the 2008 evo x will look like??

jj

yea i know what the new evo looks like. but idk. they might change the way it looks. go to google and type evo x concept.

All I have to say is that if it is going to be that ugly, IT BETTER BE FAST!!!!!, It better be a world beater.

maybe someone doesn’t know

there are one more fun comments to read on sti-vs-evo comparison test.. there is one redneck trying to proove that sti & evo - sucks

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-03-23/2006-mitsubishi-evolution-ix-vs-2006-subaru-wrx-sti/

that evo would eat any scooby alive trues mi blud

i am girl… and i know that an STi would smoke an evo… any day of the week.

Bailee u must not know anything about cars. evo vs sti? evo will do am sti anyday anytime. sorry. that truth is hard to take i know.

Uhh, come on. What’s with the apples to oranges comparison? Evo rules in the track, whereas the STI rules in everything else you wouldn’t take your Mercedes to.

And at the end of the day, it’s all about the driver.

ok, i’ll step in “boys-to-men”:)

i drove my 04 sti for 15000 miles. liked it. sold it to my brother-in-law. bought a 1-ton dodge ram. drove it for 55000 miles. liked it, but secretly lusted after the occasional rare evo i’d see. phucke it! went out and got 06 evo mr.

gentlemen, i’m sorry… the evo IS the drivers car. its MUCH more confidence inspiring. it can launch into a curve at speeds that would get most subbie owners thinking twice. i joke not. if anyone out there is deciding between these two demons, honestly, the evo is the better car. PERIOD! and HANDS DOWN!! if you want to extract more power from either one… the evo is WAAAYYYYYYYY easier and cheaper to do this. gaurantee it boys. all day long.

i aint slammin the subbie, it rocks. awesome car!

but i promise you this, take both machines on a twisty road and report back. if you still say subbie… well then, you’re in denial. plain and simple. don’t get pissed at me… listen to me! i’m trying to help you here!!

phucke!

evo rocks, and its the ultimate get away car… hehehehe!

OK children and boy racers - The long and short of this is that if you buy a Type 25 Scooby it will eat ANY Evo - FQ400 included for breakfast in both speed and handling departments.
Argument ended!
Personaly I would go for an older P1 or 22b - The classic Scooby that once again wee wee’s all over the old VI

your a fool alan..the uk type 2.5 wrx subaru has a lot slower 0-60 time, 5.9 compared to the fq400 at 3.5, the subi tops out at 147 the fq400 tops over 180….or if you want to compare the uk type sti with a 5.5 0-60 and tops out at 152…eat any evo?? haha sorry alan

the subaru could blow a mitsubishi any day. talk to me if you av msn,add me at madmanjam_3@hotmail.com

your right subaru blows mitsu

STI!! WHO WON ALL THOSE RALLIES?

were talking about the production cars here

Will someone sxplain to me why the new sti is slower than the 05 and 04 models.

maybe because it has better aerodynamics

because it is not an evo

because the focus shifted on a more refined ride (softer suspension, more weight for amenities, etc.)

My God!!! - look at all the eat my rubber, subi is better that mitsubi blah F&*king blah, GET OVER IT, its about horses for courses, not everyone will like the Evo and Vis Versa, it doesn’t mean one person is stupid and the other smarter, lets all just go out and enjoy each others cars, race, laugh and have a beer, my god if the attitude in the forum is what its like on the road no wonder there is so much road rage!…. Remember we’re all here for the same reason WE LOVE CARS!!!!!!… so lets drop the Testosterone for once….. and the ratial inspired comments Mr Mexico

EVO FOR EVER
DOG POWER LIMASSOL/CYPRUS

I want to see a download of the WRX STI WR1. The ultimate Impreza, I want to see that one in action.

!!!Evolution VIII For Life!!!

All you sti lovers out there, all i got to say is go to top gear and see how the evo tears up the sti! So sti lovers dont get your hopes up by trying to find articles that say that the sti is better then the evo cause the flat out truth is that the evo out performs the sti by a mile.
By the way my bro gots an evo and we raced a sti and teared it up
specially on the turns the guy in the sti would slow down and we would just punch on the gas even harder. Not to mention it was three of us in the evo 8 plus all four windows down cutting down on the arrow dynamics, now the in the sti there was only the driver all his windows where up. So that tells your the evo will muder any sti!!!
Evo VIII: stock
Sti: Unknown

An EVO will smoke “ANY” STI? That’s a good one!

You obviously never heard of the Litchfield Type 25 Impreza (450 bhp and full 3 year warranty) or the Litchfield Type 20 (350 bhp and full 3 year warranty) , the Impreza Sti Spec C or Impreza S204.

EVO magazine which really is the last word on these matters rates the Impreza Spec over the EVO IX MR FQ 320 and any any other version for that matter.

A car is for driving every day not just for the weekend that’s why the weekend only EVO is too much of a compromise for most people. The fact that ANY EVO sounds like ANY other four cylinder car with a big bore exhaust makes them generally as boring as this whole EVO -v- STI topic!

Lets face it, if you won either in a raffle in the morning you’d be a happy puppy and don’t say you’d sell it and buy the other!

I Read all comments but i want to asked all users right now on (WRC) only japanese Company in world Rally championship
Subaru and Mitsubishi who is the best right now ???
of course Subaru is the best ,and by the way Mitsubishi had quit the (WRC) . why they quit ??? Tell me !!!

TripleH

well, it is very complicated situation with wrc.. mitsu is not participating there - because their lancer evo wrc is very slow and bad car.. subaru impreza wrc is not that good either - not stable. citroen xsara and ford focus - are much better. but this is WRC. and WRC car’s are soooo different, they have nothing similar with stock Impreza STi’s and Lancer Evo’s.. but there is production car world rally championship - “group n”.. there is only one god - subaru. and second best is evo ;))

Amazing Site and the pic…. WOOOOOOOOW

If you like cars and cars and car racing then there is one place for you…!
http://www.*********.net/

I love STI, the way it looks, and how it has more horsepower. According to what other people say, Evo sounds like it may be a better car. Im only 17 and Im trying to get one of them, is Lancer Evo way worse in comforts, interior, and safety than Impreza STI and better in everyother way? If that’s true I dont know whether I want to get a safe, reliable, and comfortable sports car or buy a rough, fast, fun, but crappy interior car that no girls would want to ride in???

And also btw should i get automatic for subaru and manuel for EVO since EVO is very sporty and subaru is kind of elegent or stick for both???

the evo is more comfortable in my opinion and girls dont mind riding in it, my mom prefers to ride in the evo over the sti..neither car is offered in automatic. here are the 3 choices- sti 6speed, evo 5speed, and evo 6speed

Yeah thx… i figured out after my friend told me… I felt really stupid posting this up asking about transmissions. Anyways thx and my mom wants me to get an evo also so i think ima just get evo…. But STI is more safe, so that might be the only factor that might be holding me back. I have a quesion about if i am not going to get EVO MR is it still worth getting regular EVO 8 or EVO 9 or EVO RS over STI???

Yea imma have to go with the EVO because i had an STI and i had to spend atleast 2 grand just to keep it cool but it was fast

sti biches the sti will smoke and kill the evo but there is more mods 4 the evo but the boxed engine in the sti was built beter and stronger like have u seen redline tv where there was a calleng who could build the fastes evo and the black evos engine blew so i go 4 the STI STI STI STI all day biches.

Allright guys one thing u gotta remember, these things were made to be RALLY CARS not tuner street kings. STI has .5 more liters and can get more power. The tires on the Evo are wider than the STi’s, also an Evo is made to handle, not to drag race, STi’s are heavier than Evo’s by a good 200+ pounds and thats with the MR version, and RS version would be closer to 300 lbs. The other thing u take into consideration is that you can buy Cat-Back exhaust systems and short-shift kits straight from Subaru, Can’t do that on any Evo. I have an Evo IX and i love driving it. I’d have to go with Evo cause i think the STi is hellasiously ugly.

OMG i am so confused… because the other website tells me that the speed is faster for subaru but the speed while cornering, evo is better. So inr aces evo would win but, in a drag race subaru would. And subaru turns more smoothly because it has more g-load spikes. Also in tracks, evo is only 0.29 sec faster. So i dont think there is much difference except for the fact that evo is a bit better in cornering because of the design??? and it turns more safely without getting on oversteer or understeer. But they made sti so that it oversteers now instead of undeteering so that it can turn corners faster. So Evo is a bit better after the 2006 version and im not sure if EVO is worth almost 3000 dollars more for being slightly better car in streets or in rally world. And EVO does not participate in WRC anymore, so i can’t really state rally world. Check the site out and correct me if i am wrong because i am planning to get one of these cars by the end of this year..^^ thanks… comments appreciated

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0512_rally_cars/handling.html

lol all ur people arguing whitch car is beter, faster, if you ever watch WRC racing, the result tells everything, Subaru got more victory than Misubishi, and Misubishi even got knockout in 2006, yes no more Misubishi this year. both of care are sedan there no way compete with Ford focus and Citroen these 2 roasters, Unless they using the old model subaru 2.5 rs or Evo III IV etc.

Uhm, everyone who keeps telling people to watch topgear needs to do a little research on the differences between the european/japanese FQ evos and the US ones. I’ll give you a hint, it’s called “Active Yaw Control” and the US spec Evos do not have it while the rest of the world does… very sad indeed. If the US spec evos had AYC i’d be all over them but without it they’re not all that cool IMHO.

I have an 03 WRX now that i’m selling soon, possibly, to get a different car. I’m looking at the Evo VS STi thing right now and i’m still kind of torn. I’ve driven both and honestly I might lean towards the STI based strictly on the 2.5liter motor… gobs of torque = much more enjoyable daily driving. My WRX dynos 240awhp so ~300flywheel and it spools about 3500 (like the evo) and dear christ does that get old fast. My WRX i lowered a little bit, stiffer struts, stiffer springs, stiffer anti-roll bars and in my opinion between the two it handles much better than the evo (even on 225’s vs the evos 235’s), and the stock STI for that matter. No understeer, very well balanced with maybe a little sliding on the back under heavy acceleration. On that note though I might lean towards the evo just because it’s something different than what i have… probably an VIII just because i like the styling better. The steering on the evo is definitely better, though I didn’t like the tranny feel (wrx trannies are bad too, sti tranny is cool though). Evo has multilink rear while the sti only has struts in the back, which is why the wrx/sti have to have to be tuned with more understeer from the factory.

I would choose the STI and the 0-60 is wrong for the STI. It goes in 4.5 seconds.

sti in 4.5 seconds? unreal. 4.9 - the best time on stock car ever

K guys why dont we really think about it
Evo is good in cornering
and STI is good in drags
right so that basically makes it even on a track with both together
therefore
if someone wants a comfortable but ugly car (thats what i think) then buy sti but if u want fast stern but bad interior buy evo
all in all
their both about the same
I would take an evo any day becuz i dont mind being uncomfortable becuz itll keep me awake
anyways
u know ull get one or the other becuz they r giving u the best 4 ur dollar so go ahead
ill probably wait until 08 and get the evoX cuz its gonna be 300lbs less and much faster with a better interior
then STIs will suck all they way

spring 2k8… the skyline comes to North America :)

Forget the evo… forget STI…

SKYLINE BABY

skyline is for dragracing

sti/evo are for real racing. you need skill for it.

what is wrong with all of you?? the evo is not uncomfortable, its more comfortable that the sti, not a bumpy or jerky. the motor trend article tells us that it comes down to which one you like better, the pricing and looks is basically it

just wanna know why they compare the mr with the normal sti why not the normal mitsibushi ? mr = mitsibushi racing if they wanna use that why not do the test then with the spec c ? cos they maybe biased to the evo and scared the scooby will kick its butt ? just a thought !!!!

okay then u compair a bogus wrx with a EVO u get the STI we get the MR

WRX = 2.0-liter, 227 horsepower
EVO IX = The 2.0-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder intercooled turbo 4G63 289 Horsepower
THE MR is only more expensive because da rims and tires + you get sports shocks nd i *(THINK!)* the new Recaro interior and da gauges

Everyone ill have to go with the evo even though ive drive a wrx and not drive the evo yet. But just for what have seen and read so far i can tall that the evo is better car in most of the sense. Im from panama and subarus over here are overrated in popularity even more than evos due to the price since evos here are 50k and subarus are only 44k. However many times out on the drag courts with fully pumped evos and stis, evos allways beet the sti. So long live the evos across the world

As a side note i forgot to mention that im owner of a standar mistu lancer 1.6 sohc and raced it against a scooby 1.6 and 2.0 of course these are the specs that we have down here and i beat both for huge distances. So if a mexican version of lancer can do this what cant be done by a real mitsu evo MR.

STI FTW!!!

frikke, the mr is not as fast from 0-60 as the regular evo you stupid fuck. it is not biased in anyway, why would they when their job is to test the cars to their fucking limits??

aj you a stupid fuck of coz the mr is faster than the regular evo . bet you dont even know the mr stands for mitsibushi racing and it has a alluminuim roof that is 4 kg’s lighter than the regular evo’s roof and over all weight its almost 15 kg’s lighter than a regular evo and if you save weight you gonna be faster its the rules of racing ! so maybe just try and check your facts before you wanna call anybody ” stupid fuck ” other wise it can haunt you and i’m not even a evo fan i go with STI all the way !!!

the MR is faster then a regular EVO because of the light weight shocks and rims but BARLY so its pretty much up to the driver

hey stupid fuck frikkie i own a ix mr so fuck off and my brother has a fucking 05 sti..so check your goddamn facts and go to the mitsubishi website and look at the weights the mr is the heaviest of them all..if you dont believe me then ill send you some fucking pictures you cocksucker

peace on earth

i love the evo …….. i own a evo …. but i need one of those sti’s !!!!!if anyone would like to trade my evo IX for an 06 STI … you can e-mail me at saipan_slim@hotmail.com

lol aj go to racingflix.com you will find 2 videos there bout your eevo mr you think you know it all so go check that out ! the 2 videos is called factory fighters part 1 and part 2 ! so just go check it and if you scroll back up you will find a comparing graph between the sti and mr and on there you look under curb weight and guess what ….. hahahahahhaha you the stupid fuck coz there it shows on black and white the sti is the heavier vehicle !!!! think before you open your dumb ass mouth i told ya it will just haunted you and make you look fucking stupid ……….. and it did !!!!! hahahahhaha !!!!

There u go thats all da weights
Curb Weight (lbs.) [with Sunroof]: RS=3219 IX=3263 [3338] MR=3285

If you really want to know who is the daddy then go to this link and then click onthe video clip at the bottom of the page.

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/timeattack.asp

The Type 25 Impreza beats all-comers even Norris Designs 740 bhp EVO.

BTW the fastest 4 cylinder 4WD car in the world is also a Scooby. Check out:

andyforrestperformance.co.uk

The EVO is a great car but the Scooby is the Daddy QED

Frawls

im sorry but your wrong frawls..buschur racing has the fastest 4cyl, they made their evo do the 1/4 in 8.95@164

I’m pretty sure Andy Forrest Ran an 8.7 at Elvington in his Impreza STi V Type R and that was without nitros as far as I’m aware. With the nitros he’s probably going to be down in the low 8’s.

Frawls

i dont see it anywhere on his site

That’s because he travels all over the world mapping cars and only updates his web site every couple of months. I’ll sned him a pm and ask him what his exact time for the 1/4 mile currently stands at.

What did you think of Litchfields racing Impreza Type 25? It didnt have too much trouble dispatching the 740 bhp EVO and all the skylines and M3’s.

Frawls

This thread is hilarious!!! Well I have to say i really love the performance of the evo very much. but heres my 2 cents (been driving my bro’s evo 8 for a month now). performance is awesome as far as acceleration, once u pass the 3000rpm mark u’ll feel the whiplash… but i hate the turning radius. ( fucking wide it sucks, 3 point turns all day! lol) stats say subes are 3ft less.. i noticed this obvious draw back since i’ve been driving a bmw 3 series for years. wind noisewith windows slightly cracked or all the way down is unbearable in the evo!!! i mean were talkin about cruisin at 40mph! not impressed with the cheap interior. but i love the recaros, but got damn just to adjust the seat is a bitch (weak ass seat adjustables). the body panels seem and sound kinda cheap, aside from some of the cf and aluminum. lots of rattles and creaks from time to time. i mean, i like the evo for its handling and outright speed. but thats about it. i seriously have been trying to come to a compromise with what i want. i’m looking for versatility. and no bullshit, but after goin to the subaru dealership and just sittin in the sti and hittin the ignition, the quality is obvious. i’m just talkin build quality since i haven’t been able to drive the sti yet. but gettin back to the evo…. seems like there was alot of sacrificing in putting that beautiful motor & suspension (evo) in that cheap body and interior. i also love the sound of the sti motor compared with the evo & the fact that u can launch the sti with all 4 tires smokin from any rpm range at a stand still. hate the 5000rpm limiter on the evo. safety is totally on the sti’s side as well. but all in all i’m still undecided on what i want, lol.

seems like the the added weight on the sti is just added safety and material quality to me…

i fi got either, make mine + factory adds:

white evo mr se w/window wind deflecor=pushin 38 grand…ouch!!!

or

white sti le w/short shifter=34 grand

theres not a white mr se..its a reg ix with polished bbs..didnt look at the litchfield cars

and neways we are talking about the usdm sti and evo

is it true that the IX 5 speed is faster thn the MR 6 speed? I’ve been hearing that lately. If thats the case, that can really sway my decision, because theres about a $6,000 difference there, and brings the IX EVO to about $31,500. $2 grand less than the sti…

0-60 the rs is fastest then the reg then the mr..idk about it if its the ix’s but motor trend has a good comparison about all 3 and the title is about if $6000 worth it or not

Hi my name is jamie smith im 17 years old. The Mitsubushi Lancer EVO VIII is my altimate dream car of all time I was wondering if you could possibly send me some relly good pictures of EVO VIIIs standered or suped up (please) Thank you verry much yours sincerly
Jamie Smith

Why limit the topic to US cars when the EVO gets its ass kicked so badly everywhere else. Limiting the scope I suppose gives the EVO some chance but even an unmodified Japenese S204 will hammer any Production EVO and The Type 25 will run rings around the EVO FQ 400 and new FQ 360 (which has 30 ib/ft torque more than the FQ 400).

These cars used to be all about bang per buck but now they’ve become too expensive. Te best value bang per buck car available is your home grown Corvette.

On the whole weight issue the Scooby has excdellent crash test results but The EVO is fairly crap as its based on the Nissan Cedia which is remarkable for being so completely unremarkable worldwide. BTW the Cedia is a what the Lancer is sold as in Japan. Your Granny wouldn’t buy one as its too dull!

Roll on 2008 and the all new Impreza and EVO X. The spy shots of the EVO look great but the Impreza spy shots are just artists renderings or heavily disguised test mules so no compariossons can be made yet.

Without these two amazing cars we would only be able to aspire to overpriced overhyped RWD german cars which are as common on the road nowadays as Accords and Camrys, ironically two of the most overhyped Japanese rep-mobiles!

Frawls

Frawls

yes, the quality is evident in subarus. without even turning the ignition i felt the solid quality in the sti!. seems like the more tuff, scrappy, (”malleable” as motor trend says) solid one of the two. and with the proven safety of the car it almost wins hands down.

i know of Rigolie - subaru wrx running a 8,598 sec 1/4 mile pass

Lemmy get a long race with traffic and i garentee that ill kill a sti

is anyone interested in trading my EVO IX for an 06 sti ?
i can’t find an 06 STI at any dealership here in san diego .
all they have on the lots are 07’s . does anyone know a dealership that’ll take EVO 9 for an 06 STI . please reply !

I NEED TO GET RID OF MY CHEAP PLASTIC EVO !
IF ANY STI PEOPLE CAN FREAKEN HELP ME FIND SOME FREAKEN DEALERSHIP IN SAN DIEGO THAT WILL TAKE MY EVO 9 IN FOR AN STI … AND IM SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR AN 06 STI ! NOT AN “O7″
OKAY .. THANKS .

why not an 07 sti ? isnt it the same as ‘06 ?

07’s will be worth more when your ready to sell it..most likely you will still have to pay full price for the 06 sti if its new off the lot..my evo doesnt seem like a cheap plastic piece of shit..honestly the sti’s interior feels cheaper to me than the evo’s…and you cant really argue with me on that becuase ive rode in an sti daily for the past 2 years..anyway what part of it seems so cheap and plastic?? maybe the a,b,c pillars, area covering the radio and the shifter console and the door scuff plates

yewww go subaru ur da best

hey my dream car is a 2.5 lire 6 sped manual subaru impreza wrx sti omg i love them so much but i dont have $56,990 plus alot more because i want a sub and it to be turbo with a cannon and lots more if ne1 has any good webbys for wallpapers plz send them to me on ehyam_aka_pretty_princess@hotmail.com

speed*

Subaru’s sound 10x better than any evo. You get that low rumble over a honda civic sound

My present ride is a 2004 wrx sedan. Great every day car and very economical to operate. I have one more year of payments.

I test drove the 2006 STI, very fast and like riding on rails. I looked at a 2006 MR and loved all the features.

I am considering the MR EVO but THE X appears to be a faster and better handling car? Should I wait for the X? Is Subie going to one up the X with a newer version of the STI?

Any feedback and opinions are welcome…

if you are a WRX Sti owner - please help me decide
( i need to buy a car soon ) i am planning to put 200,000 miles
do u think Sti would cost me millions ( $$$$ ) LOL
cuz i drive a lot ? ( i drive 50,000 miles per year )
i would like to know how good or bad is the Car Maintenance ?

BOB - i have a question 4u
i was thinking about getting THE EVO , but after talking to a lot of people . i made my mind for THE STI ( not gonna get the EVO )

could you please tell me , why would u get THE EVO ? over sti
( give me few reasons ) why will u not get the 06/07 Subaru ?

please reply
and give me more details about your car buying future planning

i am still doing my re-search on cars and very serious about getting 2006 WRX STI

Well can sumbody help the guy out?

comparing red delicious and fuji isn’t easy both are apples and both are
tasty, it just comes down to preference. my advice, test drive them both (if a subie dealer will let you, mitsu dealer had no problem letting me bang the MR through the gears, his only warning was “watch this intersection up ahead, cops love to hang out here”.) It all comes down to what the driver likes/needs in a sport sedan. Both are so closely designed (WRC breeding) that it almost can be said that you could choose one over the other based souly on which looks better to you. Like my previous post said I chose the MR because it handles well with my style of driving. But your choice may be different. In the end, I have great respect and love for both.

dr evo ix,

why an 06′ sti over and 07′ sti?

EVO MR forever…..STI stinks ain’t got no change against the MR

hmmm… i hear evo IX is faster than MR… weighs less, and has more pull at lower rpm’s.

The RS model is actually the fastest…this is a fact. $7,000 cheaper than the MR too.

The RS is the lightweight body and forms the basis for the Group N Rally Car. It has wind up windows, little sound proofing and aluminium bonnet and boot. The Impreza equivalent is the Spec C which is both faster, lighter and handles better. It has a twin scroll roller bearing turbo, twin dump down pipe and titanium exhaust system. It is universally rated higher than the RS by every car magazine especially EVO Magazine, who are the experts when it comes to this particular grudge match.

The Evo IX combines the best bits from the MR and FQ models which preceeded it. It also has the MIVEC engine which adds another 20 bhp. A guy I know has ordered the Evo X for January as a recce car for rallys. He drives an Impreza S11 WRC in the Irish tarmac Championship. He reckons the Evo x will be the Daddy until the new Sti arrives at the end of 2007 or start of 2008 (we get them earlier in Ireland than anywhere else as a kind of test bed for Europe). This guy is over in Banbury (Prodrive!) on a regular basis and his Rally services Manager in Prodrive told him the all new Impreza was stunning and the STI would put out around 350 bhp on UK Petrol (Shell Optimax is 98.5 octane!).

Basically the whole STI -v- EVO rivalry is set to continue for the forseeable future and that my friends can only be a good thing for the rest if us in terms of constant product development.

Frawls

check out this new sti coming out in japan:

STI Type RAR

http://news.hspn.com/articles/952/2/Subaru-Announces-the-STi-spec-C-TYPE-RA-R/Page2.html

Evo Is a King Of King of the turbo cars

evo almost beat the subaru…i like subaru but no more than the evo

search the new evo X 2007 it reach to the 320km/h

wait which iz da fastest one cuz i wanna buy one and i was heading towrds the MR cuz it comes stock with 6 gears and ix is 5

I own and love both of them (2006 MR and 2006 STI). First off, they are both amazing cars and suprisingly different from each other. The Evo is faster than the STI in straight lines and probably corners better too although I havent had the STI to the road track to verify this. I personally prefer the Evo in almost all regards except color and price (my STI is white w/gold BBS wheels and the Evo is Silver with gray BBS wheels), My gf drives the STI and she loves the pink trim and I think it’s a great looking car (took a while for the front end to grow on me though). The Evo’s turbo pulls much harder when in boost, which is always, thanks to a great gearbox. While the STI behaves much more like a NA car and has a smooth strong powerband with tons of low end torque. The Evo MR’s 6 speed gear box is silky smooth and has well placed gears while the STI’s 6 speed is a little notchy and the gear ratios are not quite as well placed. The Yokohama Advans that the Evo comes with are much more responsive and quick turning than the STI’s Potenzas although the Potenza’s will probably out last the Advans (12K and they are almost bald) and probably fare better in colder weather. The Suby’s overall interior seems like it has better assembly and appears more refined while the Evo still clings strongly to it’s race car heritage. examples: suby has cruise.. not an option in a Evo, Suby has 6disc in dash, Evo MR has a single cd with no upgrade option. STI seats are a little wider but are not as comfortable or as nice as the Evo’s race ready Recaro seats. The STI has a great AC system with auot temp controls, the Evo has a crappy AC system with manual knobs and sliders. Overall though I have to give the interior to the Evo too because of the far superior Recaro seats that it comes with - This is subjective, my GF prefers the STI interior because its not so racecar. Also in my opinion the Evo pedals are easier to heel-toe than the subys. Externally, I like the STI’s exterior and engine sound alot. It’s on a few more steroids than the Evo although I think the Evo has better Aero than the STI. I like the hood scoop and the fact that the intercooler doesnt get dented with rocks. The STI ground package on the sides is very sporty looking. I even like the second wing on the rear window. Projector fog lights and faster HID headlights give the STI the exterior edge. The Evo’s CF wing seems like a much more functional body part and it doesnt bounce around like the STI’s although I dont think functionality really comes into play until 150+ so it’s really a mute point.

I’ve noticed that the magazines that review these cars sometimes read like they wrote their article from a spec sheet instead of actually driving and testing these two cars. Other notables.. The Evo has a weak clutch and the STI has weak transmission mounts. I’ve heard some MR owners are having tranny trouble but it could be the drivers and how hard they are driven - mine is fine.

Corrections: The Evo MR Does not have “lighter Enkie wheels” as the article says - The MR has forged BBS wheels very similar to the BBS wheels on the STI. The GSR and RS Evo’s do come with Enkei wheels. Also I’m not sure about the estimated 155mph top speed of either car. The Evo does not have a speed limiter and it will surpass the 155mph mark as many photos of buried speedos will tell you. I’d say at least around 170 and even more with mods if your into that sort of thing. With a ECU flash moving the redline up a bit and some extra ponies they have made the famed 200mph club (Norris Evo).

Ray, These are not 50K mile a year cars. Both of these cars are expensive to maintain. You would change tires 3-5 times a year if you wanted to retain the level of performance that these cars were meant to have. Also, brake pads twice a year. 2 clutches a year in the Evo, ok maybe 1. Complete fluid changes twice a year (2 diffs, transfer case, and tranny, + regular synthetic oil changes). I suggest a look at a different vehicle for 50K mile a year driving. I just bought the DiaQueen fluids for my first trans/diff change ($200.00).

Dan,

I was wondering what your thoughts and recomendations were on aftermarket brands/parts for the evo.

what would u recommend on:

1) turbo back exhaust system
2) intake (cai, drop in, or short ram)
3) ecu (i was thinkin vishnu…)
4) springs (iwas thinkin rsr ti2000’s)
etc…

thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kenzo

I think most of the Sane people would agree with me, its not the car so much as the driver, I have driven both cars and trust me if you don’t know what your doing the car isn’t going to help you! I have smoked Evos 8’s in my worked 98 WRX wagon, just because the Evo drivers didn’t know how to drive there cars. As far as which I would prefer it would have to be the Subbie just because I like the look over the mitsi Evo which look to much like a Hyundai. Both Cars are very quick though so go out there and drive em! And Enjoy

O and the Sprintex Supercharger and larger turbo in my 98 wagon gives me the extra grunt I need and removes any sign of turbo Lag.
Buy and older standard WRX and put some love in it is my recomendation, Quality Suspension and brakes make all the difference and engine mods/upgrades for the horsies….

Norris Designs made just over 200mph in their 2 door short wheel base EVO 8 but Andy Forrrest clocked 210mph in Elvington in his Impreza V Type R making it the fastest 4 cylinder 4wd manual gearbox car running on 98 ron.

On one run he hit 212mph but the average of both runs was 210mph and that’s what the official speed was recorded at.

Frawls

Fact is.. they are pretty close in comparison.. I own an 06 Subaru WRX and personally, I feel that the subaru’s are more agressive looking then the Evos.. I almost bought an 05 MR.. but.. decided that I’d rather stick with the WRX.. To be honest, here where I live, everyone and there mother owns an Evo.. we have an import meet, there are more evo’s then honda’s even.. haha.. I think that they are over rated as far as how badass they really are. I’d say that the cars are pretty damn comparable while still being a totally different setup.. it’s all in what you prefer. I just hope, that subaru has a good answer to the 08′ Evo.. I think it’s gonna be an interesting debate.

Evo might have more performance.. like 1 tenth of a second in the qt. mile, be able to stop faster by 9 feet from 100 mph, but.. Subaru I feel is a better all around car, Evo’s suck on dirt roads.. I’ve followed evo’s in my little wrx and I can stay up with em.. they are great on pavement and tracks.. that’s about it. Subaru, you might be the underdog.. but atleast you don’t see them EVERYWHERE. Your part of something smaller that is so much better.. and the sounds… A boxer motor owns an evo’s 2.0L motor all day.

All in all.. I personally say subaru is better.. I like the interiors more, and I think they look more agressive.. and that.. sells me on it even if it is just a bit slower then the evo..

Kenzo,

My recommendations for bolt ons for an Evo? Get a TBE, drop-in filter, MBC, boost gauge, and I recommend a custom tune vs a mail in flash. As far as brands - really its subjective. Most of the hardware is near identical in performance and build quality. Some is uber expensive due to special materials and name brand (Greddy Ti for example), and some are in-expensive but functional (Megan). Really it depends on what your looking to do and how much you want to spend to get there. These simple mods with a tune will make around 300 whp on a IX. As far as good trusted brands there are many great parts and tuners out there for the Mitsubishi just like for the Subaru. When you want to go to the next level (450+).. upgrade the turbo to a 50trim or a GT35.

AMS Performance
Buschur Racing
AEM
HKS
JIC
ARC
Tanabe
Vishnu
Dynaflash
TurboTrix
Works
etc.etc. etc

my evo mods:
Tanabe concept G TBE (Had the HKS Carbon Ti previously)
Works drop in
AEM Truboost (Had a Forge MBC before this)
AEM UEGO (wideband guage)

future? maybe a 50trim, twin disc, and a Walbro, tuned of course.

The STI is still stock (only 3k miles) but after some research it should look something like this by next year.
TBE
drop in or intake (whichever makes more sense)
boost controlling custom tune
aftermarket motor / tranny mount

Oh… Evo warranty?? LOL… thats funny, its 5 yrs 60k bumper to bumper and 10yr 100,000 powertrain. Subaru has 3yr / 5yr right?

However, Mitsubishi is notorious for not honoring it’s warranties on all of their cars.. especially the Lancer Evolution. Unless its something that could not possibly have happened due to driving hard or modifying the car.. expect a hassle. This doesnt mean that you cant make them fix it but lots of times its not worth the hassle. I’ve heard Subaru is similar but I’m hoping they are at least a little better.

oh forgot about springs… I’ve still got my stock suspension. I’d like to have it Mullerized or Robi spec’d but really its just a quick daily driver street car. JIC is sweet but expensive. I’ve actually read some great Megan coilover reviews recently. Properly setup they are supposed to be quite a bargain.

you guyz still havent helped me out can sum1 tell me which iz da fastest one cuz i wanna buy one and i was heading towrds the MR cuz it comes stock with 6 gears and ix is 5

crazyyugo,

The 5 spd RS is the fastest of all the U.S Evo IX’s (not by much though) simply because it is the lightest. lighter than the MR by almost 100lbs. Keep in mind this is the bare bones track ready model. comes with nothing as far as comfort extra’s are concerned, except for the AC (no power anything, no sound deadening, no spare tire, no radio, no rear wing.) The 5 spd will also give u more push, especially in the lower powerband area of the evo. Well u asked which was the fastest, and the rs is definitely the one and will beat the mr on a road course or straight line any day. all around comfort and daily driveability is another topic…

The real difference between the MR and RS/GSR transmissions is feel and possibly resale factor. The 6 speed has silicone shift cables and it’s silky smooth and alot of fun to drive. The 5 speed is a bit more “normal”

The MR was supposed to be a special Evo limited edition model on the VIII (numbered), but then they re-released it for 06 in the IX. Poor VIII owners. They are the high end Evo and you pay for it. They ride a little softer without comprimise in handling, they have the 6 speed and HIDs, and weigh a little less than the GSR due to the aluminum roof and no options available. They have some clout and they come with some options only availabe to them (6speed, MR wheels, Bilstein suspension, MR badging and console). The fastest Evo will always be the RS because it’s significantly lighter and doesnt have the drag from the wing.

If you are comparing stock evos for top speed purpses then the 5 speed and 6 speed Evo have almost the same final gear ratio so the answer is that they are roughly the same. Also, stock evos trap about the same through the 1/4 mile in 4th gear. At top speed I think the 6 speed can exceed 160 where the 5 speed tops out around 155. Either way, your not likely to be seeing those speeds very often (if at all) so dont base your purchase on that.

Now, if you are comparing non stock Evos at the 1/4 mile then the 5 speed Evo is capable of faster trap speeds because it has a taller 4th (Both Evo’s finish the 1/4 mile in 4th gear). In a almost stock MR you would bounce off the rev limiter at the end of the 1/4 mile in 4th gear where a 5 speed Evo will not run out of 4th gear. I dont recall exactly but top speed in 4th is like 111 (MR) vs 130 (GSR/RS) if you have the power to get you there. Rev limiters can be increased to raise trap speeds and top speeds.

If you are comparing road track, I’m sure it would depend on the track. The 6 speed has more gears to work with (which could = faster) but it may also require additional shifting (=slower).

well said, dan!

i was wondering, what’s your take on the rsr ti-2000 springs? i see that mach-evo uses those springs on there project car.

I’m not really an Evo guru.. lol. I just own and drive one. But I would venture to say that suspension setup is probably alot more important than which brand is used. I dont personally own any RSR parts, although most guys who do speak very highly of the company. The one thing that I do know is that when I took my Evo to the track it could have been substantially stiffer in the front and the Advans, although super grippy, rolled over somewhat in some of the corners. Maybe more air pressure would have helped but I think stiffer suspension combined with a stiffer sidewall would made considerable difference. Either way It was my first time at the track and I was driving much faster than I thought I would be able to, thanks to a very forgiving car and a decent instructor. I highly recommend a HPDE for anyone who owns any of the cars we are discussing. Alot of fun but be prepared to buy some tires shortly afterwards.. I ate about 40% of the rubber off my tires in 3 short 30minute sessions.

So do u think it will be better if i get an mr cuz im gonna put modz on it anywayz

i have a ix mr and my brother has a 05 sti and both are 100% stock and when we go up against each other its usually whoever gets off the line first that wins..i personally wouldnt change the suspension unless it was going to go to the track all the time..when it comes to modding an evo go with the 5 speed for 1 its cheaper and 2 dan did a great job explaining..also if you plan on buying one over the other for mod reasons then go with the evo because in the sti you never see anything over 500whp but you see up to 1000whp in the evo

evo, evo, :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))

all you guys are dumb. the evo is not only faster, but whoever is riding in one is one dope ass muther facker. helll yeahhhhhss boyyyyyyyy

Mitsubishi made lots of cool WWII Japanese Zeros that kamakaze’d into our ships in Pearl Harbor… can’t forgive them that fast.

STI!!!

subaru is japanese also

I bet i can smoke any evo with my WRX…
And there are many wrong details in this site….
evo no handle
wrx best..
evo sucks at pick up
wrx flies
evo bad gear shitfiing
wrx the best AGAIN
evo a mouse
WRX a horse
evo just sucksssss

ASK A IMPREZA OWNER not paid site!!!!!!!!

I bet i can smoke any evo with my WRX…
And there are many wrong details in this site….
evo no handle
wrx best..
evo sucks at pick up
wrx flies
evo bad gear shitfiing
wrx the best AGAIN
evo a mouse
WRX a horse
evo just sucksssss

ASK An IMPREZA OWNER not paid site!!!!!!!!

would sme 1 help me out here ….
legacy 2007 vs a camry 2007…

WRX 4 lyf, you are obviously delusional. You cannot back up anything you say with facts. Anyhow, the stock WRX vs any Evo model (RS, GSR, SE, or MR) is not really a fair comparison but we werent even discussing WRX vs Evo in the first place. It was STI vs Evo. WRX doesnt compare without mods and is seriously lacking in the suspension, tire, and power department. And yes I demo’d a WRX prior to purchasing my STI, I already owned a Evo IX MR at that time and the WRX did not impress me. The STI is another story - I think it’s a great car and I bought one and continue to enjoy it.

Seriously, If you really think your WRX can beat “any” EVO (laughing), you should show up at English Town next year and represent.

FYI: Worlds Fastest Imprezna is 9.40 @ 147 (Vic Elfes) - Australia

The TOP 10 Evo ET’s this season (each car’s best)

Buschur EVO- 8/13/2006 - 8.95
AMS Evo - 8/26/2006 - 8.97
Curt Brown - 8/13/2006 - 9.32
Dan Bajalis/FIMotorsports - 10/2006 - 9.33
TurboTrix Evo - 8/06/2006 - 9.64
Al (Dynoflash) - 7/2006 - 9.703
David Buschur’s RS - 9/24/2006 - 9.97
Daniel Buschur - 9/19/2006 - 10.19
Doug Parks - 2/20/2006 - 10.2
Matt Smith - 8/13/2006 - 10.21

may be u are ryt dan with all ur facts….
but no evo has defeated me…..

u knw dan iv been driving many types of cars all my lyf from mazdaz to supraz to evoz etc and no car was lyk subaru…
Subaru stood alone…
by the way i have an sti…

And how come u dint mention anything about the rally trophyz since 1995 to 2000

Well, actually I’m not trying to slander the Subaru - for god’s sake, I’m making payments on one myself. As far as Rally goes, from best I can tell Group N (production touring cars) is still a competitive arena for the Subaru vs Mitsubishi rivalry.

Does anyone know the group N (production touring cars) results for the last 5 years? I dont think 95-2000 is all that relevant as these cars havent been available is the US market that long.

Danny boy…
U win….

But still i would love to challenge any evo!!!!

Subaru 4 lyf…

Quick Question : i am not getting an Sti ( my insurance is killing me ) , soo i decided to go for the regular ( non sti ) WRX Sedan

Do you think Wrx sedan ( around 230 HP ) could Beat Stock G35/350z/honda civic Si / Vw GTI ??????

i know Sti is way better but i am not gonna get it , but i dont wanna get the regular wrx . . . . and find out that i made a mistake

please help me decide and answer my question soon

Ray

i dont think the Wrs will beat stock G35 and 350z but it will beat the civic si and is the wrs a stock too

The G35, GTI, and Si should be easy kills (after you learn to launch an AWD car), but the 350z would be a driver’s race no matter what. Really all of these cars are very different. The G35 (high 14’s) is almost a luxury vehicle hence probably the slowest of the bunch, VW’s are slow (15’s maybe), and the Honda is a sport model of a compact car that is suprisingly quick (mid 14s). Both the 350z and the WRX stock are capable of low 14’s driven properly but are more likely to see mid 14s until they are masteredl. The G35 has more style and prestige than a couple of the others stacked together. The 350z is a true RWD sports car and probably voted most likely to pick up chicks. The Honda is an interesting car that will probaly have decent resale, be reliable, and get mad props among the VTAK crowd. The GTI will be slow, expensive, and VW’s are notoriously unreliable. . The suby however is a special kind of animal and it brings AWD to the table, ample horsepower, and a certain ugliness that is very appealing along with 4 doors (in case your grown up or have children). Can’t go wrong with the WRX as far as I’m concerned.

In case you didnt know about this site, it lists some stock 1/4 mile and 0-60 times for quite a few vehicles.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html

Oh my bad, the new G35 is faster than I thought (maybe the fastest in the bunch at 14.0). But it’s also big bucks. Another car you might look at is the Mazda speed3.

wrx for lyf
wrx for lyf
wrx for lyf

Mazda???????

Stop messing the guys mind…

Just go for WRX…

By the way..
I like the site…

Fuck the mitsubitshit problamatic fuckin junk. STI. and thats final!!

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EVO 4 life
i just got an evo rs and the only mods i put on it is an Aluminum spoiler and a sound system (an amp. 2 subs.) i raced my friends sti stock 06 and i smoked the shit out of it. and hes been driving for a long time. this is my 2 car. ive been driving 4 about 2 1/2 years now. and my friend been driving for about 5

hey guyz how can i save the videos on this site??????????

yourMOM, you are a true fucking idiot. my mitsubishi (evo) is not problamatic, gather as much information about the car that is stock and tell me that it is problamatic, the only time when most cars fuck up is when they are modified, other than that mine purrs just like the day i got it. by the way my sti has more problems than the evo because my gas tank in the evo reads correctly and doesnt make nearly as much noise (rattles and sqeaks) and the ride is smoother, and the wing on the sti shakes unlike the evo plus the sound system is much louder than that of the sti

Mazda Speed3 Hell YES.. The new Mazda3 is a pocket rocket. It is not AWD but it puts the numbers down. The WRX only bested the mazda in 0-60 everywhere else it got SPANKED.

READ UP

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0611_sport_wagon_and_sedan_comparison

Danny boy u may be ryt again…

BUT EVEN IF MAZDA CAN MAKE THE IMPOSSIBLE i still wouldnt call it a car….

Mazda is a girly type of car…
It may be fast and all but it doesnt feel strong like the Sti…

Respect to all the mazda owners…
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

STI vs Mazda Speed3 ha ha… no comparison. STI wins in all measurements. The comparison was made with a WRX TR edition. Mazda deserves some kudos for putting out a strong performing compact car. It’s about time really. I’ll be watching for those turbocharged 3’s and wont go easy on them - That’s for sure!

The bottom line is this

If you get a WRX and put an intake and exhaust on it then it will likely smoke all of the other cars that you were asking about. You can also utilize Subaru SPT parts and minimize or negate warranty concerns that could arise with other aftermarket mods.

im gettin confused..?..+_)(*&^%$#@!~

How the hell do all of you scooby fans figure that it can dust an evo. theres the dam statistics on the top page of this site. scooby fans are blind,

Evo just sucks…

No more words

Here’s the real deal just look at how many mitsubishi models are awd and then look at subaru’s line. the mitsubishi drivetrain is so much garbage it cant take any sort of power above stock. the subaru’s drivetrain is second to audi’s awd platform. every single subaru auto is awd. so stock to stock sure the evo wins but the subaru is so detuned its not even funny and mitsubishi couldnt come up with a solid clutch system that would last. I have a limitied sti and it is a very nice car with all the extras the regular sti’s dont have. so take that for what its worth

well said by brother Sti 007

Subaru now
Subaru then,
Subaru 4 lyf

Hey 007, I agree that the STI’s drivetrain might be a better design, (more of a RWD car with front halfshafts), however, the Mitsu AWD system is a nice system. The JDM version with AYC is a step above Subaru and everyone including the article above put’s the Evo’s AWD system a notch above for handling. As far as strength goes, My Evo doesnt have a weak tranny mount that makes noises every time the car is launched above 2000 rpms where the STI does (maybe this is something they will fix, but who knows). Everyone knows the 4G63 has much more power on tap than the Subaru 2.0 or 2.5 litre engines do - at least at this point. Where exactly are the 1000+ hp STI’s? Right… they dont exist. Take a stock Evo IX add TB, MBC, drop-in and a tune and you’ve got mid 12s (on pump). In suby land you can almost count on a turbo upgrade to hit mid 12s. Detuned? In comparison with a Evo? HA - We both know that’s not true.

As far as the clutch goes - It’s hard to defend it but with stock power it is not a problem unless you have an inexperienced driver at the dragstrip. At ~ 400whp and up, you’ll need this upgrade. These are numbers most STI’s will never see but 400+ whp is easy to achive in a Evo without a turbo upgrade.

I drove a 07 Evo IX the other day and it was great; the performance was great. On the other hand, I did not like how the suspension felt for a daily driver. I did not like the interior too. Also, the tranny felt inconsistent and did not give a confident feel. Maybe this is due to using mechanical cables for their shift linkage? The STi’s tranny felt more confident and shifted so smooth. The ride was better for a daily driver in the STi. I do like the overall looks of the Evo better. I HATE the big book shelf spoiler on the STi. If I decide to buy a 2008 STi, and they still have that furniture on the rear, I will have to replace it with something else. Both are great cars and I can not wait till 2008.

wow there are so many people in this place that bash on one or the other…haha i think its funny that some people think that there is only so much you can do with a 2.0 liter….all you subi fans out there should check out this site www.shepracing.com the engine thats in that car is the same engine thats in the evo’s and its the fastest all-wheel drive car in the world… you show me a subi that even touches that car and ill start to believe all you guys that subi’s are fast…. so if you think that this engine sucks your all fools…and how much boost can a subi hold anyways? caus last time i checked they could hold like 22-25 before the motor blows and the evo can go all the way up to 35 i’d rather have the evo….but thats just me….

i chose evo always have and will. Just.. vroooom.

Anonymous, if you like the Evo except the issues you mentioned you should give the MR a test drive. I think you’ll be pleasantly suprised. It’s the softest riding Evo and the 6 speed w/silicone lined cables is silky smooth. The Evo interior is spartan but the seats are a super treat compared to the STI seats and the Evo has onsiderably more legroom.

There’s some pics of our (3) turbo 4door family haulers on myspace.
http://www.myspace.com/g3gtsboy

One thing I’ve learned in life: you can’t beat the math. Just look at the figures for both the Evo and STI. Any magazine you read or test drive you take will confirm what the math was already saying: the Evo whoops the sh** out of an STI.

But I guess my opinion is biased… I just bought an Evo MR SE today B**chin.

P.S. - Don’t take my word for it, the evo really is quite fast, check out the topgear run of the STI, the Evo VIII, and the Audi S4 (V8 engine). http://youtube.com/watch?v=H5KLktiFuVw

P.P.S. - Dan - those shift linkages are infact Teflon coated, not silicone. But I deffinately agree with you - he should test an MR - the shifts are small, precise, and quick with a smooth feel. And I drove both the MR, the STI, and the RS, and you are deffinately right, the MR does have a softer (but still hard) suspention that will soak up some of the kidney-bruisers.

But - one word of caution to Mr. Anonymous. You should realize that whether you go STI or Evo, you are buying the highest-performance sports compacts on the planet. If you want luxury, look at a lexus or something. Don’t buy yourself a go-kart on crack.

anonymous, the sti does not shift smooth i own both an evo and sti, dont believe me then www.myspace.com/_____aj_____ the evo is a better faster car in my opinion

evo is for men like chuck norris.

sti is for men like richard simmons.

suby..and i”l beat anyone with either car..cuz you all can’t drive

MAN WATEVER… BOTH THOSE CARS ARE SEXY ILL DRIVE ANYONE ANYDAY
i have drivin the sti its sexy but now i have to get in touch with a evo i have heard many great reamarks about it soo now i need to check it for my self

STI BABY!!!!!!

evo. evo. and evo again. too bad we cant buy one here where i live. and i dont got the cash for it either. still.. evo is sexy, and just watching videos of it beating the shit out of other cars is satisfying enough. watching an sti beat the shit out of other cars is fun too. so fuck who cares. i guess its just preference. peace.

MAN YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHIN ON ME OR MY SKYLINE ILL KICK YOUR ASSES DONT EVEN MESS WITH YOU ALL BITCHES HAVE NOTHING!!!!!

hahahahha a u got a skyline dam thats funny

the sti has alot more about it and the evo s as plain as bread. sti !
and these cars are just in a leuge above a skyline.

haha evo peace of shit subaru tecnica international all the way phhht evo you know y evos r more rare cuz there shit and no1 wants to buy one

shit evo does not suck and 4 ur info i would get an evo iver an sti anyday fuck sti

Uk Evo ix owner……what a rush!!!!!

I just bought an 06 EVO MR and i would take it anyday over my buddies sti

sti,evo. ortave magaria.

STi All the Way.
STi has flat4 engine that is silimar to Porche.
STi is much more durable: Clutch, tires, and brakes.
i have 2005 STi and my friend has 2005 EVo, but STi runs everywhere,
Evo is at the shop repairing….

who the winner at the end?

STi!!!!

MAN Ohhh Man You guys are STILL going at it, Well ive been working on my Evo havent had many problems with it, seems to be runnen fine. Just deciding on my next part for it, had a run in with a Black WRX on Las Vegas Blvd and raced him all the way down Tropicana. I didnt have many mods at the time just boost control and ram intake first 2 lights were pretty good, last pull he was starting to gain into 4th gear, it was expected with a 2.5L. I got the 03Evo8, dont know what was under the hood but seem like he had a exhaust and hi flow cat, cause he did have fire comming out the back when shifting, I was like man I got to get me an Exhaust I will probably stick with magen all the way back I have the 3 inch Down(Megan), but thats it. But I want to get a ASFC. Im thinking of the Black Apexi II SAFC , would this be a good part to start learning fuel controling?

Thanks Dan I will start looking up these part, I found a spot where u can download the Mitsulogger 1.5 it this recomended. So fart I got Ram Intake, TurboXS MBC, 255WalbroPump which I love, no problems with boost anymore. Im looking at getting 264intk 272exhts Cams, DCport headers and 660cc injectors, Whats the Best way to get to 550HP what do u think Dan? before you get to the real expensive parts. And a FMIC in the $300 range. We will see what happens, OH YEAH SUBIE SUCKS nah jK there great cars I might try to test drive one this weekend just to see

well…I’ll leave my unbiased opinion at best. I’ve never driven or ridden in a STi or an EVO, but from waht I see, they’re both great cars.

I drive a 1999 Subaru Impreza 2.5rs. I’ve driven a wrx as well and was fairly disapointed, although the chassis is stiffer, the way it resopnds is diffferent and you can feel the extra weight.

My solution?

I’m buliding a 260hp 2600 pound Impreza L RHD. Only mod I’m putting on it is a Fujitsubo exhaust. My homeboy has the same car but with just baller parts, and with the Z4 ecu, WRX boost map the car is INSANE. With his power fc…oh my god.

12 second car stock motor, oem reliability mated w/ a better tranny with shorter gears. The car is so incredably nimble. 700 pounds lighter than both a STi or an EVO. I’m sure they’re both great cars, but I believe that the car I am building is superior to both with mild bolts ons.

sorry, i forgot to specify the motor. It’s a v2 wrx motor(which is the same as the sti motor, different ecu). The v2 wrx motor is so much better than the usdm wrx in every way. it comes 260 stock and with a fujitsubo exhaust 275-280 is very reasonable.

Either way, theres too much rivalry, we all have great cars.

Its posted everywere… Kinda hidden but its there.

Man asked god for a race car, god gave him an EVO

Man asked god for a fast car to go to work, god gave him a WRX

Granted im for EVO, but I know a fast car when I see one… an for those who back up your WRX or STIs with having Porcha engines in them, I laugh… first off Porcha are bitch cars. an there not all that… I would be ashaimed to admit of having a “flat” four in my car… Inlines put out more touque… an another thing… people talk about how the the EVO runs 20 psi of boost… its a 2.0 pushed to its limit… its fucking amaizing… Mitusbishi has very strong an reliable cars… while… WRXs… well huh… oh yea… the WRX is a nice car… dont like the way it looks though, an alot of waisted areo dynamics with the hood scoop. any micanic knows that the key is to have a cooler engine, thus the EVO having a cowl induction… Point blank.

Both good cars, I respect the WRX, but I wouldnt go out of my way to get one…

Hey I have a question the Evo’s are pretty quiet exhaust wise, but WRX has a louder tone, do you guys get bothered by cops on the road if there in back of you waiting for you to go on a green light, I want to get an exhaust for my evo just dont want the hassel again. I had and 01 Celica with a Greedy Evo exhaust and man, cops would just be WAITEN for the light to change so they can pull me over. Im thinking of the Greddy Titainum cause its not shiney but pricey ;( And why do Imports with exhaust get PULLED OVER its FKNNN BUL$%IT and I never see a camero with crazy loud pipes or a mustang pulled over, Hell the copers motorcycles are louder then us anyway. I hate to say, but leave it to the guys who buy those $80 exhaust that sould like Lawnmowers on steriods to mess it up for everyone else.

just use tha magna flow muffler and it makes it a lot quieter

evo ix or sti? please someone tell me..im in the midst of getting one of these cars….who can give me the best reason for getting the sti or evo…the winner will win a ride in my new sti or evo?

I HAVE A LANCER EVO 1 GSR WITH 340BHP AND IT SMOKES ALL THE SCOOBYS IVE RACED ,….. SCOOBYS ARE ALL THE SAME SAME NOISE SAME LOOKS AND THE SAME TWATS DRIVING THEM THIKIN THAY CAN HAVE U IN A RACE AND WEN IT COMES DOWN 2 RACEING THE EVO EATS THEM ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol….
episode top gear , wrx sti wr1 vs lancer evo fq320

“subarus is for boys ,and mitsubishi is for MEN!”

jeremy clarkson

Hey guys, the 07 STI’s with the longer gears are looking pretty good. This is my #1 complaint about our 06 Sti is that the gears are too short and evidently they listened to some who knew what they were talking about. Stock STI’s have actually run 12’s evidently! Whoo hooo for the Subaru camp! I’m really glad to hear this just in case future Evo models fail to get my attention at least I’ll have another option.

^ Concerning top gear reviews - I suggest watching the FQ400 video at the end where they place it on the track board. All of the Evo’s are on the top 10 or so cars.. There is not a Subaru on the list - the rest of the company is Ferrari’s and other exotics. And the FQ320 is in plain site right next to a Modena. Most mildly modded Evo MR’s (TBE, drop-in, flash) are the equivilant of a FQ320.

wrx_dude !! Could you send me an email please? jmyers0341@gmail.com Am looking for a wagon - I was going to go with an Audi A4 Avant 2.0T but now I am thinking Subie. I was looking at STis a few years back, but finances kept me from getting one at the time.

Now I want a wagon that I can get for 25k, dump 10k into it and then have one of the fastest, best handling cars on the road! And I can still toss all my stuff in the back and put my bike on the roof!

And I would have to go for the STI if I was buying either of those two. If I was going to spend more than 30k it would be for an Audi, but between the two I would go for the STI.

Two reassons:
1. Mitsus are known for being POS’s.
2. That whole ordeal where Mitsu was searching for people who were talking about racing their Evo’s and then voiding their warranty. All while Subie was GIVING people SCCA memberships with their STI’s.

Go Subie!

Oh yeah - what is with this countdown on the Subaru page?

http://www.subaru.com/sub/misc/2008/autoshow/countdown/index.html

the evo has always out-performed the scooby, for instance the mitsubishi lancer evolution VIII MR-FQ320 can go around a track faster than the Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1…
and the evo 8 mr fq 320 can accelerate from 0-60 in just 3.5secs, faster than the carrera gt and the pagoni zonda!
lets see the scoby do that!!!

the fq320 can only dream bout going from 0-60 in 3.5 sec , if there is a evo its the fq400 that can do that but so is there scooby’s , like the type25 sti ! scoobies all the way the better car !!!!

i love the evo 6 2008. i would pick that over a sti

I own a Evo9 built by English and Greek mad mechanics
700 horses and no problems but serious tuning needs serious
attention.
Here in Greece 600+ Evos are the rule unfortunatly for the Subarus that
brake after the 400-450 point…
Im just saying that when Evos get tunned they get extremly fast
There is a reported 900+ with Nitrous that eats Hayabushas for breakfast….
Evo is what it says…
EVOLUTION

Alexander you must have no access to the internet or outside world over there in Greece otherwise you’d know the fastest accelerating manual gearbox awd turbo car in Europe in a Subaru, It also clocked 210 mph in Elvington (UK runway) last year and came 3rd in last years ten of the best (TOTB III) in the 1/4 mile sprint running stock fuel and tires. The same car an Impreza V Type R was driven to and form the runway, being over 700 miles round trip.

Also Last years British Tuner GP was won by Litchfields Type 25 Impreza which beat all skylines and Norris Designs 850 bhp swb Evo.

As far as the fastest awd turbos go, the Impreza is king. The EVO is not even in the WRC any more due to its unreliability and poor speed in 2005 when it was finally withdrawn.

Oh and just in case you really cant find europes fastest impreza try looking here
andyforrestperformance.co.uk

Frawls

wow that was great, thanks for the info. u helped me decide wich car i was going to get. the evo is amazing

Kamagra….

Kamagra usa. Kamagra st. Kamagra. Cheap kamagra….

evo no more..

sti

knobheads all of you. It’s just a fucking car.

(Evo IX Mr - wipes the floor with Subarus - read the stats)

Move on get a life

I drove an evo the other day… found an STi driver that wanted to have fun… raced on curves and straights… AND WON! EVO hands down

only time an evo can beat a sti is if its got more power , with the same power the scooby is the king , and the evo may be a drifter and if you look at faster cars if you drift around a track you actually slow , so then i take a sti spec c compare it to the mr and the scooby will win hands down ! in a mountain pass a scooby will be better too cause it dont drift around corners , you cant drift around tight corners cause there is no room 4 it ! you will pick your evo up at the bottom of the mountain ! ha-ha-ha !!!!

Ummmm ok…… that had alot of Facts behind it… Sti’s are SweeT !!! Evo MRs are bad ass, But I dont see any one Driving the Spec C or Evo GSR so who cares. As long as the Evos And Wrxs give the Exotic Cars a hard time then were ALL Good !!!! 4 BANGEN AWD 4 LIFE!!!!

here in SA both the evo and the sti has 206 kw ( 276 hp )and the evo 0-100km/h ( 0- 60 mp/h ) = 5.7 sec while the sti is 5.2 ! so i cant see the evo smoke the sti with the same power ! and the mr is the racing version of mitsibushi while you must compare that to the spec c which is subaru racing version , and yet again the spec c will kick the mr’s butt and just to staff my point on this site is a video where they race and the spec c does just that ! so mr evo who the fuck is the idiont now ? just open your eyes you are missing something big here !!!

Urban-wise, yeah, the EVO flexes some serious muscle, along the streets, roads and highways. It’s just odd to me that (they) should compare EVO against the STi on tarmac. Yes, the EVO has better control in the city environment, but it just isn’t the home of the STi. Taking the STi off the off-road is like making the barracuda swim out of water. Just look at how the STi drifts so graceful on dirt… WRC says it all.

ok well even if the sti looses to the evo. it doesnt matter what matters is what can be built better in the long run. talking with a few of the techs at subaru the sti tranny can take 800HP stock and the clutch is rated for 300HP making that a bullet proof tranny and i know that evo’s arent built to take that much hp overall the design of the suspension setup the drivetrain, the cars center of gravity are all much better than that of the evos

the evo is built allot stronger then the wrx. i have seen and evo get up 903hp. lets see if the wrx can do that

Did anyone see the Motor Trend best handling car article? Evo scored 4th overall. STI was not even included in testing.. hmmmm wonder why.. I’ll tell you it’s because it’s not the best in it’s class. Nice that the Evo bested the Z06 overall… pretty cool IMHO. There’s a lot of bs comments in this thread that cannot be backed up with facts. Truth is both cars rock, Evo rocks a little harder but it depends on what you want. I think the 07 with it’s updated gear ratios would make Evo vs STI a tougher choice but for the 06.. it’s hands down Evo. There are a lot of people swinging from Subaru’s nuts in this blog that’s for sure.

btw.. there are Evo’s pushing over 1000hp. One of the reasons Evo’s get a bad name on the clutch is because of inexperienced drivers and modded cars that are putting out more power than the stock clutch was designed to hold. A friend has a 06 MR with 5K miles and the clutch is shot and possibly his 4th gear syncros are out too.. why? ABUSE.. He had never had a manual tranny car before the Evo and would ask me questions like “do you powershift your evo?” LOL>. I would respond NO and dont do yours, tranny is not designed for it.. it’s got syncros.. you’ll brake them. While tuning the car I noticed a 4th gear grind. Of course he’s heavily modded now and can forget about getting that fixed under warranty but this is not a car issue.. it’s a driver issue. I’ve got 16K miles on my MR, no issues except the brake pads are going to need replacement soon, Same with our STI, running good. Both cars rock.

1000hp EVO by AMS
Enough said…
E V O L U T I O N

U mean

1018 AWDHP AMS EVO
2003 Silver VIII.. Just like mine
You Tube says it all.

This is an old post but it pretty much sums it up

http://youtube.com/watch?v=b0OVbLkgi4c

Quote from the review.. LOL
“sti is a boy’s car while the evo is a man’s car”

DuMbaZZ the EVO obviously the best

s204 vs evo9 MR is more suitable

Well in singapore, the subaru’s mostly always pwns the evos,

Evos are cooler looking i feel, but the new MY07 subaru have the dccd that could pwn an evo anytime, mitsubishi ain’t good at sport cars, perhaps they can go back to building aircons, subaru builds air craft my friends..

Get a sti, its better though not as reponsive at the EVO as STI has more raw power.

What are you trying to say concerning aircraft? I guess you dont know who made the most popular Jap fighter of all time … The Zero?? Yea that’s right it’s a Mitsubishi. What are you taling about go back to making Air conditioning? your crazy.

Listen I own a Evo and a STI, my Evo with just a tbe, drop in, and a boost controlling tune beat a 30R equpped STI, tbe, intake, ECUTEK, all hard pipes, MBC, perrin front mount, more mods too that I couldnt see. I gotta admit the cars were pretty well evenly paired up and we raced several times and he beat me twice, and I beat him once. All results were 1/2 to 1 car finishes. The only thing that wasnt close was the fact that he’s got 10 times the mods my car does including a bigger turbo, more displacment, all hard pipes.. LOL need I go on>

why are you so tensed up, what happened a family member died in a crash? OMFG relax my friend…

Evo sux ass

Specifications for MITSUBISHI
Engine
Type: Inline-4, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1997)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 405(302) / 6800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 355(481) / 5000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: n.a.
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 175.1 × 69 × 56.6
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.5
Top Speed mph (km/h): 175 (282)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
Specifications for SUBARU
Engine
Type: Flat-4, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 150 (2457)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 300(224) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 300(407) / 4000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 225/45 R17
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 175.8 × 68.5 × 56.3
Weight lb (kg): 3351 (1521)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s:

Specifications for SUBARU
Engine
Type: Flat-4, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 150 (2457)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 300(224) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 300(407) / 4000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 225/45 R17
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 175.8 × 68.5 × 56.3
Weight lb (kg): 3351 (1521)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s:

fuck all evo haters. evo will smoke anything all day long. just compare it stock and the all-out drag cars. evos gonna hit sum serious 7 second soon without any n20 and stis with n20 are barely hittin 9.1second down that 1/4.

evo all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

STI baby!!!!! i dont care wat it looks like on paper. and even if this evo is better than the STI….it took mitsubishi like a million tries to FINALLY beat the STI (on paper…lets not forget). and Subabru hasnt changed their STIs yet. If subaru decides to make some performance changes for their STI…it will take mitsubishi another 5 evos to beat it. thats y i choose the STI over the evo

the sti is wack its a bigger engine, produces more horses but still goes slower than the evo

F bodies sucka

oh and wrx’s are better but no reason to hate on evo’s

Everyone saw the specs on both cars. It said the Evo was quicker, Stopped faster, and I know it handles better.

Oh, and for those who refer to the FQ models. We dont have too. The USDM Evos(stock) will take a USDM STI(stock). The FQ models all have 20g turbos while the USDM Evos have 16g turbos.

Also, the Sti has 300″BHP” not “whp” WHEEL HORSE POWER were it means something. The Evo has 286″BHP”. If you dyno both cars, the Evo will be around 230-240″WHP” and the Sti will be around 250-260″WHP”.

I’m not on either side, both cars are fun cars. I like the sound of the sti, but the performance and the looks of the evo. If you prefer creature comforts, either get the Sti or go luxury. If you want to haul ass on “just about” any car out there, just the Evo. The sti is more for daily driving, the evo is not, but you’ll get used to it. If you plan on modding a car, go with the evo, its much easier and much less money for big power.